Dead Man’s Mourners. By Bishop T. Nasir


On 1st January 2006, a self proclaimed “Scholar” called “Illias Sattar, after failing to meet my “Challenge” of a Debate on Islam at Islamabad for which the “Dead Line” of 31st December 2005 was given to this “Schooler”. I wrote “Schooler” as this man who claimed to be a “Scholar” was nothing more than an idiotic critic of Christianity like so many other “Schoolers” like him. He tried all ways and means to avoid the “Proposed Debate”. He knew that even with his Islamic identity that these people cash shamelessly in Islamic Pakistan, he would bring “Shame” to his followers went into state of “Comma” and when ever he came out of “Comma” for brief period, he talked all but” rubbish”. He was to make all arrangements at Islamabad, a condition set by me. One of the “condition” laid by me was that who so ever is defeated will commit “Suicide” right there and then. (This Challenge for Debate was given on the request of Late Illias Sattar who had previously failed to come to Gujranwala or to give a date for coming to Gujranwala for a similar Debate till 30th April 2005). Finding no way to escape the “suicidal death” in 27 days, the “Schooler” tried to find refuge in court and sent me a “Legal Notice” through his lawyer for an “unconditional apology and compensation of 20 Million Rupees. I did not want to give him a chance to ”Run Away” through court, so I apologized “unconditionally” yet rejected him demand of Rupees 20 Million as compensation. I also pressed upon my demand of debate in Islamabad. He made a last effort in first week of December 2005 to find a safe passage out of Debate (For Urdu readers “Munazara or Mubahilla”) but I did blocke all “routs” to escape “suicidal death”. Finally on 1st January 2006, he committed “Doctrinal Suicide” and died a shameful death. Ever since (Late) Illias Sattar is being mourned by his followers. In state of shock of the death of their leaders, they start crying and suddenly start laughing. They too have gone ”mad”. In their madness they are writing “idiotic” poems against me. However I have never cared for such people and have tackled them in most appropriate manner.

From July 2002 to 31 December 2005, the “Dead Man” kept on criticizing the Holy Bible and kept asking stupid questions. For three and a half years, I answered all his questions regarding the Holy Bible and Christianity. But when ever I asked questions regarding certain Verses of the Holy Koran in good faith and for my personal understanding of Koran and Islam, Late Illias Sattar went into complete silence. I asked Him to explain only three verses of the Holy Koran, that I failed to understand for “lack of my knowledge” of the Holy Koran.

1. Text of the Holy Koran.

Sura Number 3 Verse no 7 states, “He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding”.

Question No-1

In Sura Number 3 verse 7 above, I requested to help let me know those “some verses that are decisive, and they are the basis of the Book” and verses that are “allegorical”. And though it is written that “then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding” yet Muslim scholars have commented on “Allegorical Verses” which is forbidden by the same verse. I wanted to know, did the Muslim scholars commit sin against the Holy Koran by interpreting “Allegorical Verses”?

2. Text of Holy Koran

Sura Number 5 Verse Number 51 states, “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Sura Number 5 Versae Number 82 states, "Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.

Question No 2.

In Sura Number 5 Verse Number 51, friendship with Jews and Christians is forbidden. But in the same Sura Verse Number 82, the Holy Koran has declared the Jews and polytheists the most violent enemies of Muslims but here the Holy Koran declares Christians “nearest in friendship with Muslims”. I wanted to know ,why Allah forbade the Muslims to take Christians as their friends and then permitted them friendship with Christians only?

It is over a year that I am waiting for an answer to my questions regarding the Three Verses of the Holy Koran, that because of total lack of knowledge on Koran, I did not understand. All I requested was for my help in understanding the Holy Koran but the including Late Illias Sattar no Muslim “Scholar” or “Schooler” has been able to help me or give an answer to my questions that I asked in good faith.

This is nothing new with Muslim “Scholars” and “Schoolers” that they “shamelessly” criticize our faith but even fail to help us understanding
Islam and the Holy Koran.

Recently, The exact nature of reward for Muslim men in Paradise is mentioned in the Holy Koran. I wanted to know the “exact nature of reward” for Muslim Women in Paradise. So far no Muslim scholar has responded. To my surprise, the same question was asked from two Muslim scholars on a Private Television Channel the “Geo T. V” by a Muslim. Both Muslim scholars were so confused that they could not give any acceptable explanation of the question. One scholar said, “If the Muslim women had married four men after the death of first, second and third husband, she would be allowed to chose the one she liked the most. The woman would be made incharge of Seventy “Hoors” that her husband will get and Allah would make her more beautiful than any ”Hoor”. (Reference Geo TV program, “Allam on Line” dated 24th January 2006)

Now when the unfortunate followers of Late Illias Sattar are “Mourning his Doctrinal Death” they have not given their “Idiotology”. It is like a “Tail” that was kept in a iron pipe for 12 years, but it could not be straightened! Any way I have done my job and made Mulvi Illias Sattar to commit Suicide on 1st January 2006 as I said on 30th June 2005.

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