Dear Mr. Bhatti, First of all, as you have aware we have more in common with Christians and Mr Asif than an apostate-atheist; Ali Sina From both our religious prospective Mr Sina faith is doomed. It is the very reason that he lacks intelligence that there is no reason and need to debate him. We have ought in common with him. His own Christian Pakistani Family has exposed Robert Morey as dishonest. His like were severely reprimanded by the Christian Apologist, John Gilchrist. In fact he authored a whole book on the subject: OUR APPROACH TO ISLAM: CHARITY OR MILITANCY? “One of the key features of the modern spirit of Christian militancy against Islam is the proposal that Allah, the deity of Islam, is a "false god" and that he cannot in any way be identified with the true God of the Bible. This approach is vigorously pursued in many recent Christian writings on Islam”. “Many Christians, sensing the sharp edge of the challenge from within, believe that the only way to resist it is to divide Islam entirely from Christianity and to reject any suggestion of a common identity between them at any point..” “Secondly the name Allah is to this day not exclusive to Islam. Although Christian Arabs use the name Yasu tor Jesus and not the Quranic Isa, they use no other name for God than Allah. It is not so much the name of the deity of Islam as it is simply the Arabic name for God, the one Supreme Being who created all things. What "God" is to the English language (and "theos" to Greek) is what "Allah" is to Arabic. Even the small Arabic-speaking Jewish communities of Morocco and other North-African Muslim countries use the name Allah for God and every translation of the Bible into Arabic employs this name alone. If anyone was to teach a group of Arab Christians that Allah was a "false god" they would think he was blaspheming, or if this same group was taught that "Allah does not actually exist" (another recent Christian approach), they would think he was an atheist.” Morey lost his debate before it even started, by admitting that Muslims are Unitarians as opposed to Christians who are Trinitarians. He was taken to task by ex-Christian Daniel Lomax on this issue. He left many Christians bemused by this admission. Sam Shamoun is on record in the form of computerized recordings and texts where his verbal assaults and behavior is in STARK CONTRADICTIION to the very Bible and God he professes to defend. This gentleman’s behavior is catalogued and recorded via electronic transmission on the Internet. The number of occasions he has resorted to such utterances are too many. Sam Shamoun conducts research on Islam from allegedly protestant prospective but his research is tainted with an agnostic-atheist agenda filled with an appeal to rationale. We have to continually remind him of the similarities to his own scripture to the very subject matter he is criticising. However, his research is welcome to the addition of Muslim-Christian literature. We have no problems with his work and a mere handful of lay-Muslims like myself, are interacting with him. I am aware of Nadir Ahmad, who asked Sam to debates on a vast range of topics. After holding one debate, Shamoun set obstacles to prevent further debates with Nadir. Nadir has still left the challenge open. Ask Shamoun to debate Nadir first. In fact, this was the only debate that was intense that I have heard. Dr Samuel Green is probably the least likely of the Christian apologists to win a debate. Victory in debates depends on performance on the day. He has never responded to any of the refutations to his papers. Zakir Naik is a scientist and he debated a Christian Scientist who was chosen by friends of Sam Shamoun. Than, Shamoun DERIDED Campbell for his poor performance. Yet Campbell was a member of Answering Islam team. The Answering Islam team includes Protestants and their admission on their website that before Luther came along Christianity had been corrupted since early apostolic Church. This the very same Luther that Catholics accuse of calling Jesus the greatest of all sinners and accusing the blessed Jesus (peace and blessing be upon him) of an improper relationship with Mary-Magdalene. He was the brain Child of the protestant movement and I hope we can all agree that this is disbelief. Sam Shamoun is NOT a PROMINENT CHRISTIAN, a wannabe apologist yes. In fact , Shamoun held his first debate via e-mail with me. We both have parts of our websites dedicated to refuting each other. With regards to Eastern Christianity, the great Cappadocian theologians and John of Damascus belonged to this sect. These very theologians refined and formulated your Trinitarian theology for you. Why Shamoun would want to disown them, for Luther is beyond my understanding. Do not they at least keep a beard and cover their heads, at least they imitate Jesus in some respects of their dress code. I remember my aunty mistaking the Orthodox priests for Muslim sheikhs. They looked more like Jewish ministers to me. From the point view that he is a qualified and that his behaviour is that of becoming a Christian, Bishop Timotheus Nasir of Pakistan would be an ideal candidate to debate any Muslim Apologist. The Good Bishop can conduct a debate in any country in the world, why not India a secular republic. The good Bishop had a debate with Deedat. The Bishop is a Christian by conviction. Unlike Sam Shamoun who is the last I heard was further reformed after being Reformed Christianity. How many reforms is it going to take for him to become a sincere Christian? Wow, if he became a Muslim, by his own admission he has doubts. By becoming a Muslim, according to his own theology, he must have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and this by his own theological papers he can never be forgiven for according to the Christian scripture. Once a doubter, always a doubter. The very religious frenzy and tantrums that Asif thinks are solely attributable to Muslims was and is common to Evangelical Christians in America. Debates have been held between Muslims and Sam Shamoun, Dr Morey, William Craigh Lane whose ex-student has a blog site called Debunking Christianity, and Jay Smith. I would like to see Nadir Ahmad vs Sam Shamoun. Please arrange it. We are not without the Messiah. The Messiah was for the Jews and not the gentiles. Jesus came for the children of Israel, and rather like one of the early Jewish believing group in the Messiah whom you call the Judaizers, documented by Paul in the letter to Galatians and history knows as the Ebionities , whom Jesus personally blessed as documented in the New Testament, we call Jesus the ONE OF THE GREATEST PROPHETS, and we firmly oppose and are the severe against the Protestants whose founding fathers Calvin and Luther called the noble messenger of God, Jesus (peace be upon him) derogatory names as documented by the Catholics. We will not hesitate to accuse of defamation any who accuse Jesus by use of improper terminology unbecoming of his high status. In this lies our safety and we most not go to extremes in honouring Jesus nor defame him like the Jews. Your and my salvation lies in honouring Jesus ands disowning those who show vulgarity or disrespect to him. We also disown any Muslim who does not accord Jesus his rightful status. Yours Nisar,