CNI.Gujranwala. I believe, Mr. “Talib Sharai” is a follower of the new “Cult” of “Moreyism”. The leader of this new “Cult”, has no answer to my comments, therefore he has given the task to an unknown person who comes from some “Desert” or is in quest of a “Desert” Talib means “seeker” and Sahrai means “Desert Dweller”. He should have courage to identify himself fully while criticizing any one. Mr. Sahrai try to face the facts that Robert Morey failed. a. Robert Morey,s was and not a recipient of any degree from Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala., Pakistan. The one he has is “Illegal” and defunct. Thus withdrawn and notified. b. Morey has sent more than one letters. I have then saved and printed. All that he wrote in his letters and on his web site is nothing but “Rubbish”. My letters are not one sided “diatribe”, it is Morey and now your. c. I am not “apparently the current Principal” of Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala, Pakistan. I am the Principal of this institution. Your doubt is your problem and not mine. d. I did inherit this position from my father Late Dr. K. L. Nasir, not being his son but on merit. e. I am proud to be an officer of in Pakistan Army. And I am proud to be a “Reservist Officer”. I have earned this pride through extremely hard work. No one should be “jealous” of my rank. My “Famous” e-mail address should not bother any one, as I am a “Gunner”. May I ask, what stopped you to become an Army Officer? My name and e-mail address on various “search sites” including www.google.com should not be a “thorn is any one’s heart”. What I am, I earned it. You want your name on “Google”, work hard. However this reflects the jealousy of Mr. Talib Sahrai, follower of “Moreyism”. f. One must understand the meanings of the word “bishop” and then comment. In Pakistan the “Church of Pakistan” had one retired “Presbyterian Bishop” Mr. W. G. Young (who is not in this world any more) and Bishop Samuel Pervaiz, Bishop of Sialkot Diocese, who is a serving bishop. However My being a Presbyterian and a bishop should not be a matter of concern and worry for any American or “semi America”. Morey become a “bishop” within matter of few seconds, I have no problem with that. The word, “splinter Presbyterian group in Pakistan” is a term commonly used by “Two Bishops of Church of Pakistan”. I know their pain when I am addressed as bishop. (may I state the fact that the United Presbyterian Church of Pakistan is not a “splinter church”, it can accommodate all bishops of Church of Pakistan. Our church that has given up the title of United Presbyterian Church of Pakistan on 11th March 2004, is the “single largest Protestant denomination in Pakistan”). I must also state that I neither don’t expect nor need any respect or courtesy from any “ignorant” person. g. I have never extended any financial support to Pakistan Christian Post. I wish I could and I would if needed. You did not have guts to have a web site, please don’t blame others for your lack of ability and lack of courage. I am sorry to write, that I did not or do not want to write, “Don’t be stupid” Mr. Sahrai. Mr. Nazir S. Bhatti did deserve a D. D. and we awarded him the degree. Morey one the other hand does not deserve any honor and we withdrew the “Illegal” degree that never initiated from Gujranwal, Pakistan. I would like to know your educational level or background too. h. Robert Morey may be well known to a large number of people, yet his ministry, (if you can call it a ministry) is abusing all who differ with him. Christian Faith never needed any defender but followers. Lord God is alone the defender of Christian Faith. By calling himself “Defender of Faith” he has made himself a “god” and uneducated and undereducated people like you are his followers. He has no valid argument in his publications, only calling names. He has yet to defend any Christian “Doctrine” (not Faith). It is an insult to Rev. Mouvie Abdul Haq, Dr. Khair Ulla and Allama Paul Ernest to be compared with Robert Morey’s and his stolen work with above mentioned names of the “supper” scholars. i. There is no controversy on Morey defunct D. D. degree. As far as we are concerned it is all over. We are educated enough to know and understand the nature, meaning, definition, purpose and rules for awarding the doctorate degrees of all kinds. We know various educational institutions award these degrees to its students, according to the requirements of that institution. In doing so, these degrees are not recommended by any body or organization that may be a church. In all such degree the “paper work” is assessed. The character of the candidate is given no importance. While awarding D.D. degree that is a Religious degree, the work on ground and its results are assessed. In this the character assessment is the most important aspect. Personal behavior also has its importance. Honorary degree thus has more importance than an earned degree as far as Christian Religious Honor is concerned. Robert Morey was assessed from every angle and aspect and we found him unworthy of such honor. I must remind you that the Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala, Pakistan has its own rules, regulations, policies and set standards. More over any “university’s or encyclopedia’s definition” is not revealed from heavens. Every university and educational institution has its own definitions of doctorate degree. It is also to be understood that it is the prerogative, right and will of any recipient of Doctor of Divinity degree to write/use the “title Doctor”. There is no hard and fast rule that who should and who should not use the title of doctor. Robert Morey used this title without any authorization for almost eight years. j. The first two purposes of awarding the “Honorary Degree” are rightly stated by you, i.e. To recognize someone who has achieved distinction and has made unusual contributions to his/her professional/religious field, higher education in general, or to a specific educational institution and to honor both the recipient but not the institution. However the Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala, Pakistan does not sell and desecrate its honorary degree for any kind of donation. k. Please do not compare me with a Robert Morey. I have earned doctorate degrees too, and by the way what is your educational qualification? What is your business or job in USA? Morey is not the only person in the world who has the distinction of having “earned degrees”. A comment on your side note, Mr. Hameed Dess is known to me since long time and I personally adore his poetry. It is his will to use or not to use his degree with his name. (I am a great admirer of Dr. Hameed Dess) l. Now wait a minute, (" Dr. Morey is right when he says: "With two earned doctorates, the D.D. is nice but not crucial."). These are Robert Morey’s word! Please pass on my message that if Doctor of Divinity from Faith Theological Seminary is not “crucial” for him, why is he justifying the illegal degree. He should take off, D. D. from his “credentials, if he has any Christian credential”. m. So; you did not find FTS on the list of HEC, did you find any other Christian Seminary on that list? I would like to know. n. That is strange, on one hand Mr. Sahrai is defending the Doctor of Divinity that Morey claims from FTS and on the other hand he says our degree is not “honored any where. Then what is the problem with Morey and you Sir? We withdrew our degree that according to you is not honored any where. We bestowed “honor on Morey and his followers by withdrawing the D. D degree that he fraudulently received and kept for Eight long years. You should be happy and should not cry like Morey (who has big “Punjabi morays” in his record and character. o. We are very positive that it was Robert Morey who has done a “Fraud” and when we found out he acted like a “thief caught red handed”. p. I have mentioned above, Our Honorary Degrees are not for sale. I suggest Morey and you should buy a D. D. degree worth $ 2,300. That might be the American way but not Pakistani Christian way. q. I still stand by my word that an honorary degree has more value than earned degree. You objection is illogical rather your whole article “Guns and Roses’ is illogical. With the logic of “Cult of Moreyism” every logical thing will seem illogical to you. Please remember that USA or Europe is no standard for Religious degrees. r. I said, we don’t sell our honor. However if you can pay I will tell you the price. Take a large paper, write $1, and then start adding zeros from top to the bottom of the large page in each line. That is the “donation requirement” of FTS. Can you pay it???? You sell whole America, you can not meet our demand. s. For Bahar Colony, please go to Bahar colony, and you may be from a “Basti” your self. Am I wrong? t. You are defending Morey on every issue? How much did he pay you? If Morey has some knowledge than he should know that as yet Muslims have not starting using the title of a bishop. It will not be surprising that he will announce that “Pope John Paul” is a Muslim because Muslim have names such as Jan Pal etc. u. Mr. Talib Sahrai, I must tell you, this man Morey is rendering no service to the church or Christianity. He is a grave danger for Christianity. You may ask how can I say that, well the world has become so small that a “Desert Dweller” has some information on me, I have more than enough information on Morey. He will soon announce his Cult “Moreyism” like David Quresh. Make sure you are not with him in Orange, California when he commits collective suicide. However, I don’t buy him for a “dime”, and you talk of his “Stature”? Bishop Timotheus Nasir Bishop of Siloam Christian Churches of Pakistan