Dear Readers, Greetings from Pakistan. You must have read my views and the response of Mr. Dr. Robert Morey, under the Title, Nasir Has His Facts Wrong. By Dr. Morey on www.pakistanchristianpost.com . I wish to let my readers know the wording of the Degree of Doctor of Divinity that is issued or awarded by the Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala, Pakistan. It reads; Faith Theological Seminary, Gujranwala, Pakistan. To all to theses Letters shall come Greetings in the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ Be it known that the Board of Directors of Faith Theological Seminary on Recommendation of the Faculty, in recognition of his Theological attainments, his Outstanding Christian services and his loyalty to the Word of God has conferred upon (Name) the degree of Doctor of Divinity together with all rights and privileges thereunto appertaining. In witness whereof we have affixed our names at Gujranwala, Pakistan. On this XXX day of XXX year Signatures Signatures Principal Chancellor (Seminary Seal) Signatures Chairman Board of Directors. The degree Robert Morey has does not have the signatures as on the degrees of Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala. It has only two signatures, “President Board of Directors” and “President of the Faculty”. Therefore the degree that Robert Morey has stands invalid unless it is validated by the Faith Theological Seminary, Gujranwala, Pakistan, and not from any person who ever it may be has no right to validate the degree that has the wording “Gujranwala Pakistan”. However we had no intention to harm any one and all we wanted to know, who has issued these degrees. We also sent an information to all Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala Pakistan a notification through Pakistan Christian Post that a former employee who was fired by the Seminary in April 1995 was selling “fake and illegal” degrees. We found Fr. Keith Roderick and Robert Morey, so that we can see who signed their degrees and also to get to know if they realy merit the degrees? More over we wanted to know if they were some how trapped by the “fired employee” A. D. Shakir. Fr. Keith Roderick’s respond was quick and friendly. His E-mail message reflected that he is a “Man of God”, working for his glory and through our own resources we found him worthy to have the honor of the degree of Doctor of Divinity from Faith Theological Seminary, “Gujranwala Pakistan” but Robert Morey responded in strangest way “as he was caught stealing red handed”. He replied to our following letter as he was writing to a “third rate American”. Below please find the correspondence that was started on 30th March 2004; Our Letter. 03.30.04 Dear Dr. Morey, I am the Principal/President of Faith Theological Seminary, Gujranwala, Pakistan. It came to my notice that you received a degree of Doctor of Divinity Degree in August 1996. However your name is not included in our record. It is therefore requested that please send your degree of DD to Faith Theological Seminary, P. O. Box 68. Gujranwala. 52250. Pakistan for verification. I must remind you that this degree was given to you in Blackwood NJ in August 1996 and we take it an offence against our institution. Please send the photocopy of your degree by 20th April 2004 failing which we shall bring it to the notice of the people of the United States of America through various web sites in the united states. In Lord Jesus Christ, Rt. Rev. Dr. Major (Retired) Timotheus Nasir, Principal, Robert Morey’s Response. To Mr. Major or whatever your real name is, You are probably a Muslim who wants to know who awarded me and another man a D.D. so you can go and kill them to earn the Muslim whorehouse of Paradise. I am friends with the Pakistani Christian community in Philadelphia and Canada and I do not remember ever hearing of you. The D.D. is an honorary degree that is nice. But my ministry is not dependent upon it. I earned a B.A. from Covenant College, and a M.Div. and a D.Min. from Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia. You can contact the schools for verification. I have just finished a Ph.D. program in Islamic Studies from Luisanna Baptist University and will recieve my PH.D. degree in May. With two earned doctorates, the D.D. is nice but not crucial. Your rude tone, your disrespect, and your threats reveal that you are not a fellow Christian but either a Muslim or a liberal. Dr. Carl McIntyre was present when I was awarded that D.D. A host of Pakistani pastors were in attendance as well. Since I know them and I do NOT know you, until you send me some documentation from the pastors of the Pakistani Church in Philadilphia, whom I know and respect, you deserve only these words from Holy Writ: plene omni dolo et omni fallacia fili diaboli inimice omnis iustitiae non desinis subvertere vias Domini rectas Jude 3, Dr. Robert Morey, B.A., M.Div., D.Min., Ph.D. (5/04), D.D. Our Response the Same Day. 03.30.04 To Mr. Dr. Robert Morey, I am not a Muslim. You probably are so ignorant that you did not read my title and name carefully. It TIMOTHEUS NASIR and I do not need a certificate from a person like you. Spare some time to go through www.upcp.org.pk You call yourself a Christian? Yet you failed to show any such spirit. You should have asked a question before you received the "Fake Degree" why a degree of a Pakistani Seminary is being awarded in Blackwood New Jersey? If you have not heard of me that does not mean I do not exist. What ever you are I could not care less. I also do not care what are your relations with Pakistani community in Philadelphia. I knew Dr. Carl McIntire who was our leader and a great scholar and not a fame thirsty person as I see in you. Let me tell Mr. Dr Morey, I will not compromise the sanctity and the prestige of our seminary at any cost. I am contacting my lawyer in United States and the educational authorities, unless otherwise you send us your degree that we see a fraudulent degree for verification by "Urgent Mail". Please remember I am not a Pakistani living in United States who will by discriminatory laws of your land will bow down before you. Let me tell you Mr. Dr. I am the only Christian in Pakistan who deals with Muslims in much better way than you. You may find me on www.google.com with Timotheus Nasir is you have any doubt. I demand that you surrender the degree of Doctor of Divinity immediately and send it to us. My address is P. O. Box 68, Gujranwala 52250, Pakistan. May I suggest that you be more careful while writing me. Be careful next time. May the Lord Jesus Christ show you some light and make you a better man and a Christian. Praying for you, Bishop Timotheus Nasir Robert Morey’s Respond 03.30.04 Dear "Gunner", Jesus warned us about the likes of you. I am duty bound to obey Mat. 7:6 and must block any furt her emails from you. You are not only an anti-Christ but an idiot. This is the last you will hear from me. I do wonder if you contacted the other man who received a D.D. at the same time. I doubt it. I leave you with these words: tradere huiusmodi Satanae in interitum carnis Dr. Morey Our Response. 03.31.04 Mr. Morey, (American Idiot) Jesus also warned us of people like you, He is not reserved for you people only. You are an Anti-Christ and False Prophet in Sheep Skin. A Hypocrite Scribe who travel via land air or sea to make one disciple and when you make one you make him worthy of hell more than you yourself. A Cheat and Forger and a Liar. Your Christianity is revealed by calling me an "idiot". I call you the same i.e an "Idiot" with a Capital "I". Let me tell you, "Idiot", you will have to face me and I will not let you run away like that. I would say you a "Barha Choor jo apni zati namood kay leya bakwaas karta hay". You are mentally defeated person. The proof is that you have blocked my mail. Yet I shall not leave you and fully expose you and your cheap tactics. You will keep receiving mails from me and this is one of them. Keep watching California News Papers. More over I shall as I said let the American and California Educational authorities and if needed let the FBI know about you “fraud”. I shall tell every one that you have a "Forger and Fake" Doctor of Divinity Degree. The whole world would know about you soon. Unless you render an unconditional apology and surrender our degree. Bishop Timotheus Nasir Robert Morey’s Defeated Response. Now he becomes a “Bishop” in Matter of Few Minutes!!! 03.30.04 Dear "Gunner," Matt. 7:9 forbids me from receiving any more threats from you. I have placed a block on any further hate speech from you. Dr. McIntyre was a dear friend of mine and He had me speak at his college and seminary. I leave you with these words: tradere huiusmodi Satanae in interitum carnis May God have mercy on your soul. Jude 3, Bishop Dr. Morey Our Response. 03.31.04 Morey, Devil knows more scripture than me. Therefore I expected your quoting from the Word of God. I hope you remember your conversation with Lord Jesus Christ after Lord's forty days fasting. I am also duty bound to retrieve what was given to you and our pearl that some one cast in your hands because you are the person who has "tramped" under "its" feet and has turned and trying to rend us. Tum jassey Shaitan say kia umeed ho sakti hay. By the way to the best of my knowledge, your latest seminary/university does not offer Islamic Studies. Bishop Timotheus Nasir After Robert Morey’s “Idiotic response” we had no choice left to send out The following “Press Release” from Faith Theological Seminary. Press Release Dated 30th March 2004 This is to notify that the Faith Theological Seminary Gujranwala, Pakistan, disowns the degree of Doctor of Divinity awarded to Dr. Robert A. Morey of the “Defender of Faith” Orange, California 92863 U. S. A. As we found out that this degree was awarded to Dr. Morey in August 1996 in United States by a group of irresponsible people. We further make it clear that this institution does not know Dr. Robert or his ministry what ever it is. It is further stated that Dr. Morey was not on graduation list in the year 1996. We clearly state that the Faith Theological Seminary holds its annual graduation in the month of March each year and never in the month of August. Therefore the degree of Doctor of Divinity that was awarded to Dr. Robert A. Morey never originated from Gujranwala Pakistan and as such we do not take any responsibility of the DD degree of Dr. Morey awarded to him. Bishop Timotheus Nasir Principal